I agree with Enkidu. Facepalm. I swear this dungeon is designed to screw with the PC’s. Oh wait…..
Actually, i think Enkidu is silently laughing so hard that he is getting a migraine….
Yes, the grin is powerful.
That’s a good grin he’s got goin’ on.
After 5 rounds of swimming and 30 seconds, everyone dies of suffocation. No, wait that’s the sadistic DM approach. D&D allows something crazy high like 30 rounds or 3 minutes for most PCs, which seems to err on the side of generosity. Not that this rule gets any attention from most DMs who make water encounters…
It’s not a terribly realistic rule.
Under 3.5 rules characters can first hold their breath for a ridiculously long time normally associated with pearl divers, and then it takes CON rounds for them to drown, if I remember correctly. But, hell, they’re HEROES. Compare a high-level character to a 1st level one, and he’s basically a superhero, able to dodge dragon breath, to throw lightning, or to survive the fall off a cliff. (Like the pseudo-Conan title character from the hilarious B-movie Yor, Hunter from the Future, who gets thrown down a precipice while unconscious and not only survives the fall onto the ground with only minor dirt spots on him but awakens some time later really pissed off at having been beaten.)
Not to mention that in action hero movies, the villain never kills the hero even when he has the chance. He has him beaten and thrown into the dungeon (not a D&D dungeon, but a real cell), or poisoned, or strapped to a death trap and then leaves him alone with a 1st leve l minion.
In that regard, D&D does not work like a heroic fantasy movie. Especially when you play D&D “old style” in the adversarial way, back when game designers and game masters apparently thought the point of D&D was killing off player characters in unescapable Grimtooth traps or by DM cheating. 🙄 The DM had “won” when he had killed off all the player characters, ending the scenario, while the players had “won” if they used rules loopholes powergaming to survive or plain cheating because heck if the guy who wants to kill you has absolute power you cannot win by playing fair.
Well, correction, Yor wasn’t mightily pissed off, he appeared to be only mildly peeved.
Or maybe that was Reb Brown’s acting.
Hey, nobody laughs at Yor! 😡 He’s the man! 8)
I MUST have that movie!!!
At least the druid can wriggle itself out in a fishy way…
“Lext” in the 1st panel, 2nd bubble.
I mean text-bubble, not air-bubble.
Thanks! Your No-Prize is in the mail!
What’s more interesting, is that Bunker has a speech bubble _under water_…
Interestingly, Bunker’s being underwater has curiously little effect on Bunker’s player’s ability to articulate.
It’s just because he’s not taking it seriously enough, or LARPing.
LARPing the drowning. 😐 Wow, that’s method acting. True dedication to the Art.
Unfortunately, we cannot cull the herd of Vampire LARPers that way, as they would point out that vampires cannot drown.
Then let them prove how dedicated to the job they are- anybody who drowns just didn’t LARP it good enough.
And also wasn’t a witch, obviously.
Hey, just trying to help you out.
And I appreciate it. Thus the thanks and the No-Prize.
Bunker’s giant helmet is clearly a diving bell in disguise.
Too bad he doesn’t have an air hose.
Oh he’s getting “hosed” all right…
Y’know, he supposedly has a girlfriend so it’s kinda strange he’s trying to screw the party up their asses with his hose-monster.
Freya the monk has Jedi powers and thus will be able to hold her breath for 10 minutes.
They used those silly breathing apparatuses in the shitquels, AFAIK, so they didn’t really hold their breaths.
Wait, they KNEW they were facing a room full of underwater traps and underwater combat, they even took an extended rest to recover and learn specific spells, yet Morty apparently forgot to pray for Waterbreathing and Freedom of Movement spells??
Unless you tell me that 4E does not have spells such as Waterbreathing and Freedom of Moment anymore. 😡
I mean, what good are clerics and druids in 4E if they don’t even have Waterbreathing spells for the group?
Pretty sure that Waterbreathing is not the standard of effectiveness for clerics or druids anymore.
No, it should be the starting base.
And then Fleece kills Enkidu?
Do you want me to tell you how it ends?
Well, if Kevin wants to end H.O.L.E rather rapidly, that is a distinct possibility… 😆
Rocks fall, everyone dies…
Wow. That IS tempting.
Time to try out the trident’s powers!
That could happen. 😉
Too bad a Decanter of Endless Water cannot work in reverse…
It’s basically nothing but a portal to the plane of water. And Fleece had found one in Glandiri’s hoard. Although that was one of the previous Fleeces. But I’m certain Martin made sure that she didn’t run off with all those magic items he had given her to carry.
Wow. That WOULD be pretty useless right now.
They don’t have one, but there is a (or was) a Flask of Endless Breath or something to that effect, that was basically just a flask you sucked air out of.
I dunno, a decanter that sucks in water (and all the monsters too) is exactly what they need right now.
This is no Treckie-setup with a mighty Montgomery Scott…
How about the druid summoning a water elemental? Or an air elemental?
Can’t breathe a water elemental, and can’t summon an air elemental underwater.
Yes, but a water elemental or air elemental could probably push the water away from the pressure lock and allow it to open.
Or a fire elemental to cook all the monsters(bodies of water encased in metal walls, anyone?). Or did they get tired of eating giant crab meat? sure, it might take some in-game time but it’s not like they’re really in a hurry there.
Really can’t summon a fire elemental underwater.
Who said anything about underwater? I’m surprised they even bothered getting into the water in the first place. Instead of an open “cage” trapping a monstrous giant crab, like before, they’ve got several interconnected metal fish-tanks with an assortment of monsters. Just make a soup out of it.
Ah, Bouillabaisse! 💡
Repeat after me: I am not a pleasure unit.
I am not Enkidu DMing.
Where would they get that much saffron so quickly? It’s expensive these days you know.
They’ve got talking weapons, I’m sure they can manage some saffron. Or Enkidu could use prestidigitation to alter the taste.
A plan that hinges on Enkidu being helpful is doomed from the start.
One would think.