541 – The Curse • 02


The Monday Question

I enjoy a good cup of coffee, as do many folks. I’m not a black coffee guy, not being all that manly, but I’ll drive cattle, rustle sheep, and swap stories around the campfire with any ornery cowpoke this side of the Rio Grande over a nice mocha latte. But there are a lot of different kinds of coffee out there, and a few pretenders too. How to settle the issue? Why the Monday Question of course!


I’ll start. Pictured above is my research, which I will organize into highly scientific and professional reviewery type order. Because I am now a big-shot reviewer I’ll be assigning a one to ten numeric value to the amount of coffee goodness each brought to my taste buds, exemplified by some funny little doo-dad. I know! I’ll use coffee beans!

#1 Starbucks Mocha Latte: Ten Beans!


Okay, I like Starbucks, that’s not really a secret, but for a consistently good, high quality product, this is the cup to beat. The twenty ounce is a hair under $4, which is the highest price as well, at twenty cents an ounce.

#2 Three Layers Mocha Latte: Eight Beans!


Three Layers is a local coffee house here in town, and is pretty representative of the type. The coffee itself is excellent, on par with Starbucks, but they lost beans with their “mocha,” which was just Hershey’s Dark chocolate syrup. (It’s too sweet.) This is very typical of smaller, independent coffee houses everywhere I’ve ever been. Prices are pretty much the same as Starbucks too.

#3 Dunkin’ Donuts and Burger King Brewed Coffee: Seven Beans!


I kind of had a revelation when I tried the Dunkin’ Donuts coffee. I realized that I had been judging “American” (or brewed) coffee by “European” (or steamed) standards. That’s not right. The truth is that they’re really two very different drinks, each with their own strengths. Steamed coffee is rich, full, and complex, lots of depth to the tastes. Brewed coffee is light and clean, high bodied and more refreshing. Dunkin’ Donuts and Burger King were indistinguishable to me from each other, but both were very good, and very much something I wouldn’t mind drinking. The twenty ounce was just north of $2, making it half the price of the steamed coffees.

#4 Best Bean Mocha Latte: Six Beans!


This was the surprise hit for me. Best Bean is the coffee brand for sale in Gate Station stores (gas stations with the little grocery stores attached) here in Florida. It’s a machine where you place your cup in the front and punch the buttons for size and type, and it goes to town. Unlike older models the machine doesn’t just mix hot water and powder, but it actually grinds beans from the hopper on top, steams your coffee, and adds whatever flavors you have requested. I was happily shocked to discover that it wasn’t a bit bad! A little sweet, but not too much… lower quality beans, but that seemed to be expected, and  a real bargain at $1.89 for a twenty four ounce cup. Finally, it was fast and convenient. It will never replace Starbucks for me, but it’ll do in a pinch!

#5 McDonalds “McCafe” Mocha Latte: One Bean!


This was… awful. I am not certain what was done to this cup of coffee to make it so bad, but whichever pencil-necked vice-president in charge of suck decided this was a good idea needs to have his head examined in a room far from his body where it can’t do any more damage. This was basically old truck-stop coffee with too much milk and artificially flavored chocolate sugar. I made the observation to Lena that if I was driving late at night, with no sleep for the last three days, and the only source of caffeine to be found was this, I’d find a way to drink it. So while it suffers in comparison to every other coffee available, it is better than death. (Which is where it’s one bean came from.) The $3.05 large is smaller than everyone else’s large at sixteen ounces, placing just under the actual premium coffees in price, but in this case that’s a mercy.

So the question… What is your favorite coffee, and why do you like it? Best taste, best price, sweet on the barista? What’s your best bean?

67 Responses to 541 – The Curse • 02

  1. I don’t drink coffee. Don’t like the taste, don’t like the smell, don’t like the color of brown water. So I guess my opinion is moot. I do find it odd though that I’m able to get up ass early every morning and go to work exhausted from too little sleep and still find a way to function despite my anti-coffee, anti-energy drink outlook on life. So, uh, go me? I guess.

    • No two ways around it, caffeine isn’t very good for you. Of course, running around with too little sleep all the time can lead to a whole host of ailments as well. Make a bedtime for yourself and stick to it!

  2. I don’t drink coffee generally. If I am motivated to drink coffee, uncharacteristically, it’s generally straight strong-brew or straight espresso, medium or darker roast (if they insist I specify). The reason why is because it hits me like speed or crack–it messes with my coordination a bit and makes me very, very hyperactive.
    As far as other, fancified coffee drinks go all I have to say is this: If you want a milkshake, order one. A milkshake might be less bad for you than a coffee-milkshake. Aside from that I really don’t understand how so many people just accept paying $5 for a cup of hot water with some added stuff in it, but then I also don’t understand why hippies haven’t started militant slogan-shouting against expensive bottled-water.

      • Have one, don’t let my opinion stop you if you think it’s worth the price. I am dismissive of the value proposition but I’m well aware that I like things other people think are foolish as well, and as far as I know we still have the right to be stupid.
        If you have many of them you may want to consider looking into making your own to save money, five a week at $4 a pop adds up to most of a c-note by the end of a month, and approximately a kilobuck a year. To some people that’s money instead of pocket change, and any worthwhile charity would be able to make good use of that sum.

          • It seems like you’re trying to tempt me into a pyrotechnic display of sarcasm. Keep trying and you’ll eventually succeed. 😀

        • Yum. I used to get those a lot. I got one a couple years ago right before I realized I had the stomach flu. Haven’t really craved one since. They went on the list with the beef raviolis that I ate before realizing I had a stomach flu when I was 12.

          But, they are good.

  3. “but then I also don’t understand why hippies haven’t started militant slogan-shouting against expensive bottled-water.”

    That’s because there’s a prevelant opinion that bottled water are cleaner and healthier(which is true to some extent, what with the quality of tap waterin a lot of places), and hippies are mostly health freaks as well, so they have to drink it, and they can’t ban their own water supply, it might damage their oh-so-delicate health.

    I quite agree to everything Tim said- I too don’t drink coffee, and very rarely drink tea(only when my throat is very sore when I’m sick). Just doesn’t appeal to me, and I have to drink my tea with lots of honey to make it barely palatable.

    I’ve tried some energy drinks just to see how they taste(I was getting some for free when I was working at a gas station…I love scamming for goods from my filthy rich employers). I was expecting something like the usual sodas, but it’s frankly quite hideous, even the smell of it is medicine-like, makes you want to retch.
    I’m still baffled as to how and why people actually quaff that garbage.

    On a side note I’ve wanted to comment on the art style you’re using now. I’ve noticed it’s getting cleaner and sharper, which is good(some of the early ones were hard to understand). Are you trying to recreate the original black&white style you had in the start of this comic, or are you opting for something different? I hope it’s the first, I rather liked it.
    I just hope this won’t stay in pencil only, it needs some “edge” to it, IMO.

    • You’re saying they’re all ignorant of the sad fact that bottled water is tapwater, and is held to the exact same standards. Sheesh… next you’re gonna tell me they don’t bother to do the research on the poisonous, non-biodegradable and barely semi-recyclable nature of most consumer-goods plastics.

      As far as your artistic appraisal goes, well, hand-inking takes forever and a day if you’re careful with it, easily longer than the original pencils. He changed styles to have more time for other projects, so therefore….

      • To be fair not all bottled water is just bottled tap water. I will admit that most of it is, but it is possible to find bottled spring water. I have never really been a fan of the idea of bottled water myself anyways, so I guess it doesn’t matter too much. I just don’t like it when people over generalize.

  4. I think it’s fascinating that the first three opinions here are actually all a bit anti-coffee to one extent or another. (Also that they’re all insanely early in the morning.)

    This art is “cleaner” because I used a blue-line pencil to do the underpinnings of the drawing… because Lena didn’t like being able to see it. I’m honestly still on the fence about it. It is way easier to get rid of, but it’s also impossible to erase, which makes sketching freely more problematic for me, and can actually make things more difficult.

    I’m not really trying to recreate anything in particular, the decision to move to pencils only was entirely time-motivated. For the same reason there are no plans to go back to the inked look. I did like that look, but it was way too slow and I’m hoping to build a look with the pencils that I like just as much.

    Mmm… breakfast…

    • My coffee of choice? Diet-Coke. I actually dislike the smell of coffee (well, plain coffee — some of the frou-frou coffees smell good, but I’m still not drinking it).

      • “Frou-frou coffees” lol

        It reminded me of an observation I heard a comedian make:

        The more complicated the Starbuck’s order, the bigger the asshole.


    • Hey, on the art discussion bit, I think this panel looks awesomely neat. I’ll have to agree with Lena on this one, despite our past disagreements. *nods*

  5. I’m no connoisseur, but here’s my own 2 cents on coffee:

    I don’t drink mocha lattes or espresso. I like my coffee like my women – ground up and in the freezer. No. I meant sweet and black. And I can tell you if you just want a plain ol’ cup of coffee the place to go is definitely NOT Starbucks. Blech!

    For coffee on the go, it’s Burger King. For brewed at home, I like hazelnut or french vanilla or even a nice breakfast blend.

  6. Rarely I have a black one with two lumps of sugar. Not a big fan of cafeine (or anything that could damage your body), I’m something of a jock and very worried about the effects on my physique.

    Then again, being a jock, I never bothered to look up what sort of killer stuff is in certain other foods that I eat. I’m sure someone will be kind enough to educate me on the subject 😉

  7. To be fair about the coffee is bad for you comments, an ongoing study at Harvard is showing that there is really no good/bad effects from drinking coffee. If anything, coffee helps protect against type 2 diabetes. So, if anything, coffee is good for you more often than bad. (article: http://www.webmd.com/breast-cancer/news/20081013/caffeine-breast-cancer-link-minimal).

    Although, caffeine can be addicting, much like anything else. So use in moderation should be the rule of the day.

    As far as your findings, they all seem to fall within my own general opinion of those places coffee in general. I don’t drink Lattes, but if I had to order my coffee of choice in a list it would appear much like your own.

  8. I’ve never been big on hot drinks at all, coffe included. The exception to this was back when the only place to eat at work was a McDonalds a quarter mile way, if you cut across the parking lots on foot thru the snow. Driving was closer to a full mile, getting out of the parking lot onto the one way road, circeling around, and getting back, assumeing teh iced raods didn’t make for a crash to go around…. anyway, at that time they had a vanilla-latte thing that was decent…. ‘decent’ defined as ‘hot and caffinated’.

    These days, I ocacsionally get a bottle of StarBucks iced mocha. I like the taste and teh caffinee, but the price is way more then I’m really comfortable with spending, since can get a generic liter of caffinee for half the price.

    I’ve also tried some of the cans of Caraboo Coffee Mocha. Decent, but slightly too bitter for my tastes, and also expensive.

  9. If I’m in the mood for a sweet coffee superdrink, I go to Starbucks or Caribou Coffee (up here in Wisconsin). Otherwise, I just brew at home using a press-pot, so it is as dark and strong (and consistent) as I want. Also, I definitely agree that the McCafe coffee is horrible.

  10. Generally speaking I brew my own, but if not I get White Castle’s coffee — it’s not the best by any means, but it’s sort of a tradition. I get beans from a number of places, but most often from Peet’s or Sweet Maria’s. Carl’s Blend from Kean Coffee is very good and Wood Fired Coffee makes excellent stuff. Oren’s Daily Roast has good stuff. Eh, I could list a bunch of stores I’ve bought from a time or two, but it’s a long list (dozens of places now). Have you been to Seattle, by chance? More coffee businesses per square mile in that town than there are cheesesteak joints in Philly.

    There are a decent number of places here in Muncie, IN, especially considering it’s just a town of 65,000 or so. There’s the MT cup, which is overpriced and generally gross, and the Blue Bottle, which just has custom-ordered stuff which is overpriced but sometimes worthwhile. Coffee Junkiez has a good house coffees but I really go there for their crazy Milky Way or Snickers mochas. Then there’s the “so overtly and fervently religious it’s creepy” lot of Alliance World Coffees who ship their stuff all over. They may be a bit too vocally nut-tastic for my liking but their coffee’s excellent — Guido’s Blend is a staple in this place alongside Major Dickason’s Blend from Peet’s.

    • I’ve never been to Seattle but I’ve always liked Seattle’s Best coffee. Of course I recently learned that Seattle’s Best is owned by Starbucks and it’s the same bean so I guess I shouldn’t be surprised. (Though I admit to being a little disappointed. I thought I was being all “cafe” and stuff.)

  11. Hot chocolate all the way for me. I like the smell of coffee beans, but I can barely stand taking a sip out of the finished product.

    PS Boy, does Bunker have a long neck when he stretches.

  12. Hot chocolate too.

    For me, there are 2 reasons people drink coffee: They like it, or they want the rush. I don’t like coffee, and I’m stuborn to the point of stupidity in despising artificial stimulants: If I’m tired, there’s a reason to it, so I’ll accept it as a signal my body sends, and not try to cheat around it.

      • Well, chocolate itself (de-fat non-synthetic chocolate, the one made out of cocoa) doesn’t have caffeine in it, it’s actually quite healthy with lots of anti-oxidant (read anti-aging) properties and such. It’s alot like the chinese ginseng root, except it’s very sour, which is why darker chocolate (higher levels of cocoa) is healthier and… well, sourer(?).

        The trick is sugar. There’s nothing more energetic than sugar, not caffeine, not guaraná (yum yum), nothing, cause our body breaks sugar into raw energy. Turning little kids into Tazmanian devils. True story.

        • Ah, I found what I was looking for. This from WiseGeek.com:

          The caffeine in chocolate varies according to the type of chocolate one chooses. Caffeine in chocolate that is unsweetened or is semi-sweet usually contains about five to 10 milligrams of caffeine per ounce of chocolate. Caffeine in chocolate with milk added is usually measured at five milligrams or less per ounce. Generally, caffeine in chocolate is present in higher amounts, as the chocolate gets darker.

          Usually, the highest caffeine measurement for an ounce of chocolate is 10 milligrams. One can compare this to coffee to see that this is a relatively minuscule amount. The average cup of coffee contains about ten to fifteen times the amount of caffeine in one ounce of chocolate. Usually coffee contains between 100-150 milligrams of caffeine in an eight-ounce cup. This may vary slightly according to brand and roast style.

          So yeah, it’s there, it’s just not very much.

          • Ah, nothing like a wise geek to put an end to such fiery discussions. Ever had one of those step into the middle of your conversation, drop in the ultimate truth and leave everyone else without a subject to yell about? Freaking sucks, I tell you.

            *walks away with his coffee AND chocolate. no pain, no gain*

  13. I used to be someone that could drink any kind of coffee, anywhere you could buy it. Be it the 8-hour-old pot of coffee at the gas station, the weak-enough-to-almost-be-just-hot-brown-water coffee at Waffle House, or some jarred instant stuff. Throw a bunch of creamer and even more sugar into it, and it was great to me. In my early 20’s my friends and I would sit in a booth in various pancake houses/diners for hours drinking pot after pot of coffee. Coffee and clove cigarettes were our fuels of choice when there were so many more important things to do than sleep. I didn’t go to Starbucks because I thought it was absolutely ridiculous to spend that much money on a cup of coffee. And I didn’t like it anyway.

    Then in mid-2004, a life-changing event occurred: I got a job for a gourmet coffee wholesaler, Boca Java. It was a mail-order business (still around to this day) that small-batch fresh-roasted its own coffee on site. It was there that my education about coffee began. I learned about the difference between robusta and arabica beans; how (like wine) the climate, location and soil where coffee is grown greatly affects the outcome and taste of the coffee; how various grinds effect the strength and taste; how coffee is best when it’s ground just prior to brewing; that the proper amount to use is about 2 tablespoons per SIX-ounce cup (according to the National Coffee Association); and that the best coffee is made using the purest water. I tasted every flavor and every roast (with the exception of the pumpkin spice because just the smell made me gag). It was simply THE. BEST. COFFEE. I’D. EVER. TASTED. And what does perfection do? Ruin you for life for any other coffee. Because the coffee was guaranteed to be fresh-roasted to order, any returned coffee (and there was quite a lot because they had deceptive and less-than-ethical business practices) could not be resold, so we were constantly swimming in free coffee. I personally gave away at least 100 lbs of free coffee back then. I had boxes of it. It took me at least a year to exhaust my own personal supply. Unfortunately, I was laid off after just over 6 months and the company has since relocated to Boca Raton, where it was originally founded.

    Since then, I have had to make do with the likes of Starbucks and other local gourmet coffee shops. My favorite is probably a Caramel Macchiato from Starbucks, but on the fly, I have to concur with Ron that BK Joe (Turbo, please) is the best coffee you can get from a fast food drive through. Oh! I also love Einstein Brother’s Darn Good Vanilla Hazelnut coffee, usually mixed 75/25 with the Darn Good Euro-French Roast. I used to love Dunkin Donuts, but it just doesn’t do it for me anymore. I can hardly choke down any other coffee served in any other restaurant, fast food or otherwise. At home, we have been trying every kind of whole bean (I refuse to buy ground) coffee available to find something I truly like. It’s been an arduous task, and I’ve hated most of the brands we’ve tried. I even bought some from Starbucks, Einstein Brothers, and Dunkin Donuts, but haven’t cared for any of them. I’m thinking (hoping) it could be the coffee maker.

    So I’ve decided to go with the ultimate test: last week I broke down and ordered some Boca Java. I’ve held out this long because it’s really expensive at $7.49 for 8 oz. It’s been at least 3, maybe 4, years since I’ve had a single cup. They had started to change things a bit before I left the company, ruining my previous favorite flavor, Tropical Kiss (chocolate and coconut), but I’m hoping that Surfing Safari (vanilla, caramel and Kahlua) withstands the test of time. I’ll find out tomorrow morning, because my first shipment will be waiting on my doorstep when I get home today. I’m so excited! 😀

    • Sounds like you and I had pretty much identical experiences in our early adulthood.

      I should have mentioned Einstein’s up top. I do like the coffee, but there’s something about it that always gives me gas. (Same thing happened with the BK Joe.)

      I’ll keep my fingers crossed for you on the Boca Java. I actually ended up going out and getting a new espresso machine myself, for day-to-day use. (Buying a coffee at Starbucks is a kind of special deal thing. No more than once a week.) It’s cute and tiny and makes one cup at a time. Perfect for me, and sooooo much better than my old drip machine!

      Good luck!

      • I have an espresso machine at home, but need a new carafe for it. I’ve needed a new carafe for at least the past 3 years. I’ll probably end up getting a whole new machine at some point. I’m also getting a one-cup drip coffeemaker as a free gift with my Boca Java order. I’m going to bring it in and put it on my desk at work. 🙂

  14. Brewed – no cream – no sugar.

    In a somewhat different category; grounds boiled in a pot of water, then decanted over cheap whisky.

    • All I can hear is Hannibal Lecter saying “…fava beans with nice coffee grounds decanted over cheap whisky.” It sounds so refined.

  15. My old standby used to be the McCoffee. It was ok but consistantly ok at an average price.
    Bit like teh coffee machines. Not great but pretty ok, all the time.

    One of our local dens had a chap that made a brillant cup, most days (I suppose depending on the weed level or lack of it) but the other staff “just operated the machine”. But at double the McPrice it was a bit hit’n’miss.

    Sometimes slack McStaff will not seal the stored bags or put them in the wrong place in the freezers, so they get damp or to cold. Makes the coffee serious bad. But different store or even different managers can change a yuck, to ok.

    • Yeah, something horrible was done to that coffee to make it so bad, but it was presented to me as a fresh and premium product. I don’t know if it was typical, but I also can’t say it wasn’t. What I can say with all certainty is that it barely resembled any of the other products, and it was awful to drink.

      That said, because it was SO bad I assume that it must be the fault of some Mcidiot in charge of making the thing. (Or running the store.) It is an open question however just how typical THAT is.

  16. Gah, can’t believe nobody’s mentioned Timmy’s yet! Tim Hortons is the reigning champion in Canada (even though they’ve been bought out by Wendy’s.) Not so much on the specialty coffees, but mum and dad would drive 2 hours to get a medium double-double and a medium with cream, with a box of timbits for snacking. Fortunately there’s a Timmy’s on every other street corner, in all Canadian towns with population > 600.

    Not that I get to enjoy it down here in New Zealand 🙁

      • Doughnut counterpart product, little doughnut balls that roughly correspond to the size of the hole of a doughnut (usually a tiny bit bigger in diameter, but…). Typically sold in packs of a half or full dozen for a small snack, more than that for company–five or six is roughly equal to one doughnut.

          • I’m almost curious enough about it to start trying to look up the origin of these things and what their actual/original name is except for one thing: That would be spending too much attention on one of those foods with a sole redeeming feature–the taste when it’s still fresh. Easier to get a fresh doughnut anyway.

          • I think that the name timbits came from the name of the restaurant. I really like Tim Hortons for just a normal cup of coffee. If I am going for specialty coffees I usually go to Second Cup, although I do not mind Starbucks.

  17. For home brew you really can’t beat the taste to price ratio of good old Eight o’clock coffee, but then I’m not the best judge of good coffee I’m afraid. See, dad used to get up about 5am, make a pot of coffee, drink about half of it and go to work. 2 or 3 hours later I’d get up and finish it off. To this day I cannot stand the taste of fresh coffee, it just doesn’t taste right to me.

  18. I will eat/drink anything that isn’t toxic. I do mean TOXIC, not bad for you, TOXIC. That said, I tend to stay away from caffeine, because I build up tolerances really fast and after a week and a half of a cup a day, I lose all sensitivity to it. Since sometimes coffee/caffeine is much appreciated, I save it for when I need it. Though when I do partake I try to go for Turkish coffee. I love the simple and deep flavors you can get from the beans, and the sugar is nice too. I go to thrift and resale shops quite often for parts(yes, I am a disassembler, it’s cheaper that WOW) for weekend engineering, and one thing that you can find quite consistently at thrift shops is old single person espresso/cappuccino machines. At an average price less that fifteen bucks(more like seven) There are few places better to get a durable cast metal, high-pressure steam generating component. Seems like a bunch of people buy them in a coffee-craze and get rid of them within the year. ‘Course I don’t really understand the views some people have regarding coffee. Seems like you have people who have this idea of the espresso etc. as part of some kind of highly sophisticated culture of which they are part, while another side sees anything beyond gravy in a cup as a sissy drink. Those are just stereotypes, but in the end it’s just a drink. I don’t understand how the different preparations of a plant’s seed can be perceived as sophisticated, or manly, or anything beyond a specific flavor, but I am an ogre when it comes to food(I once drank a blender pitcher of sardines, relish, mustard, new and old coffee grounds, hot dog, orange peel, milk, many kinds of soda, and black olives and found the mix both refreshing and filling. I also enjoy raw vidalia onions as an eatin fruit.)

    • Lots of folks like to snack on vidalias. I don’t, but I’ll make raw onion sandwiches out of them, which isn’t far off.

      As far as your “milkshake” goes, it sounds like a stunt to prove how badass you are to a street gang of thirteen year olds. Either that or you’ve damaged your taste buds in some potentially life-threatening way. In either case, you might want to switch to prepackaged foods… they may kill you more slowly than you will.

      I agree with you about the “coffee as social status” notion. It is just a drink, and there are different kinds, just like there are different kinds of beer or lemonade. What’s the real difference between a Newcastle Brown and a Miller Lite? My mood when I drink it, and that’s about all.

      • Actually I was a lone thirteen year old in the house with a bunch of old condiments and a blender. It was an adventure. Though I’m not sure how you found it life threatening, and my taste buds have never been normal. At around thirteen I stopped disliking tastes; it didn’t matter how horrid something would taste to another, I just didn’t mind(same goes for pain, but getting hospitalized for burns on your arm, face, and eyes and then finding you’re immune/resistant to hydrocodine and morphine can change your outlook on pain.). Worry not though, I draw the line at things that have a reasonable possibility of giving me disease, or killing me, So no street gum, roadkill, or crystal meth, but that raccoon looked so tasty…

      • Kevin, that is sooooooo completely wrong. There is a WORLD of difference between Newcastle and Miller Lite. One tastes really good and the other tastes like complete ass. I can detect the difference, blindfolded, by scent alone. 😛

        • I didn’t mean that you couldn’t tell the difference, I just meant that both are perfect beers, of their type. Miller Lite is not a bad beer, it’s a good beer that you don’t like. Newcastle is a good beer that you do.

  19. Best coffee: Cafe Au Lait a the Morning Call in New Orleans. CDM or Community coffee. Coffee and chicory,mmmmmm.

    Starbucks has always tasted burned to me. And I’m a former 24 hour US Navy coffee drinker. Try some 7-11 coffee. Not bad. Drank it while guarding and delivering Brinks money. Loved their huge go-cups. MMMMmmmm, massive caffeine and firearms…..

  20. Starbucks Venti Mocha Frapaccino (Quad shot of the go-go juice with some extra mocha) would be my prefered coffee of choice when I purchase it premade out of the house. It is a bit costly at $7.47 for that particular concoction, but much enjoyed by myself 🙂

  21. I drink it black, now. Used to be cream and sugar, the diabetes made me change my habits. I didn’t like it at first. Then I found out that coffee is like Guinness Stout: temperature is a factor. Brew it properly and let it cool until just above tepid. No bitterness! The coffee that is. Guiness seems too bitter if it’s too cold. So my 2 or 3 a cups a morning indulgence is lovely again. Of course, I can’t drink Starbuck’s coffee if they brew it. They overheat it, scorch it and it never tastes good. If I take their beans home, grind them and brew it myself, it’s good. But Caribou has a nicer selection. My two coppers.

  22. I only drink Rousse’s brand, dark roast, brewed using 10cups of local tap water 5 table spoons of coffee and 6 table spoons of sugar added to the pot. that or starbucks frappacinnos . any other coffee makes me physically ill. in fact I don’t drinks frapps very often. they tend to cost too much. btw i’ve been drinking home brew sense I was 4 i am currently 19