773 – White Smoke Mountain • 140

by Kevin Pettway on March 18, 2011

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Pulsa March 18, 2011 at 12:19 am

What kind of check and what would the DC be for standing in front and through water rushing out of a water-filled room? I’d say a strength check but the DC I’m not sure.

Kevin Pettway March 18, 2011 at 8:22 am

Maybe an Athletics check. I think that includes feats of strength.

Morael March 18, 2011 at 1:06 am

Strength. :mrgreen:

Though The check for having his eyes gouged out by Freya…con, and with that DM note(Higher than you can roll,) :mrgreen:

orald March 18, 2011 at 1:45 am

Is the DM implying he resents Zobbie’s player for “trying to steal his man(Bunker)”, or am I just reading too much into things?
I’d ask what is it about him that draws almost everyone in the gaming group, but we already know he’s being played by Dirk Diggler.

Tim March 18, 2011 at 2:38 am

Every now and again Orald, you say something that makes me laugh. This was one of those times.

orald March 18, 2011 at 3:29 am

Also, (sea)cat-fight!

ranthoron March 18, 2011 at 6:06 am

…against a druid with gills (or waterbreathing), not a mermaid! :roll:

Kevin Pettway March 18, 2011 at 3:54 pm

Zobbie can turn into a fish, turn parts of herself into fish parts, or rely on Suave for water breathing. This particular time she wasn’t anticipating any problems, (unfortunately) so she went with the easiest solution… let Suave do it.

orald March 18, 2011 at 4:22 pm

She’s done it so many times now that some parts of her smell of fish regardless of their current construction.
Err…eww? :P

not-so-anonymous March 18, 2011 at 1:35 pm

What, no lesbian sea-cats??

Hilary March 20, 2011 at 9:56 pm

Seriously. What a gip!

ranthoron March 18, 2011 at 2:49 am

Hm, the sea cat’s meal seem a little bit unclear to me. Is it shark or tunadolphin?

orald March 18, 2011 at 3:28 am

Shark. Tuna and dolphin don’t have that kind of asymmetrical tail-fin.

Gary March 18, 2011 at 11:43 am

Actually dolphins don’t have any sort of tail fin, they have flukes (different orientation).

orald March 18, 2011 at 4:29 pm

Yes, but if it weren’t for the asymmetrical nature of the fin shown here it would’ve been hard to gauge the orientation(i.e vertical like fish/horizontal like marine mammals) from the way it’s drawn.
And I apologize for not using the correct technical term for their fin-analogous organs.
*Insert here a 5-page lecture about the similarities of marine mammals and fish due to convergent evolution, when Christina returns*

orald March 20, 2011 at 3:50 am

What the…I can see why someone would find the “fish smell” joke offensive and vote me down, but a short, informative answer about asymmetrical fins/flukes? :?

Stephen March 18, 2011 at 6:07 am

break out the cat nip and laser pointers, this will be a easy fight

orald March 18, 2011 at 6:55 am

I’d suggest a ball of wool as well, but the water will wreck havoc on it.

chris March 18, 2011 at 12:36 pm

Makes you curious if fireballs hurling through the air would have the same effect as the laser pointer.

The Occupant March 18, 2011 at 7:49 am

One thing I find confusing in this comic is that the PC part of the party seems to have a congeanial relationship with some NPC, telling them how they rigged the game and such, yet a much more antagonistic one with the DM, who technically would be running their reactions.

orald March 18, 2011 at 8:07 am

Nobody told the troll woman(played by the DM) about their cheating, so the DM didn’t know until he realized there was something odd about their anticipation of and easy triumph over every encounter and puzzle, so there’s no conflict between the DM’s two “personalities”.

BTW, what’s the troll’s name anyway? I can’t bother searching for it.

The Occupant March 18, 2011 at 9:17 am

Even so, they get along with the NPC a lot more then they do with the DM.

orald March 18, 2011 at 4:40 pm

For once the DM is separating between his lust to torture them for their transgressions and is acting in-character with her. As such, Violet is an ally(for now) and not the “antagonist” meant to be overcome like the DM and his adventures. One is an ally, the other is an obstacle.

The Occupant March 18, 2011 at 6:25 pm

I guess, but that’s really not in-character for the DM.

orald March 18, 2011 at 8:47 pm

I agree on the point of the DM’s personality seeming to shift around on any given strip between childish imbecile and responsible and calculating adult. I believe there have already been several quarries as to the exact nature of the DM’s psyche, but I recall no real answer. It is my belief that he’s either in the process of growing up, suffers from multiple-personality-disorder or some sort outwardly similar mood-swings, perhaps being manic-depressive, if that could account for such changes.
Or he’s a very talented actor, pretending to be an idiot in reality and being a cunning manipulator inside the game.

anonymous coward March 19, 2011 at 9:58 am

A semi-experienced DM/GM is a cracked person, just starting on the path of insanity required to play three different opposed NPCs at once. Once they’re more experienced they either have reconciled the personality splits and motivational splits required to do it without going so nuts OR they have gone even more nuts.

,,,At least that’s my experience on the subject. Do we have contradictory experiences?

orald March 19, 2011 at 12:43 pm

I think The Occupant’s main problem, which I also agree and share, is that the DM has been shown to posses a childish persona which, one would think, would be unable to manage a mature, in-character approach as is the case of Violet.
Put in simpler terms- we expect him to be openly and without subtlety mean and hostile even while playing as Violet.

anonymous coward March 19, 2011 at 9:07 pm

But this GM has subtlety: Note the particulars of how he screwed with “Martin” in the hallucinations of Martin and such.

orald March 20, 2011 at 3:53 am

That’s just it. He suddenly has subtlety when until then he appeared to be a bumbling fool. Even his girlfriend says he’s a moron or something of that nature.

Kevin Pettway March 20, 2011 at 8:13 pm

It IS possible to overthink this. Although I do always enjoy the discussions. :)

orald March 20, 2011 at 8:34 pm

We know it’s just your shameful lack of continuity, of course, but that has never stood in the way of pointless discussion.

ranthoron March 18, 2011 at 9:29 am

Well, one troll’s name is Morty. Bunker’s sweetheart is called Violet… :oops:

orald March 18, 2011 at 4:36 pm

Right, thanks. For some reason the name never stuck, maybe because it, and her aren’t used as much.

Kevin Pettway March 18, 2011 at 3:55 pm

Violet.

Elfguy March 18, 2011 at 9:55 am
Kevin Pettway March 18, 2011 at 3:56 pm

Agreed.

Kroiden March 18, 2011 at 2:40 pm

Bunker is sort of smart after all, isn’t he?

Kevin Pettway March 18, 2011 at 3:56 pm

Occasionally.

orald March 18, 2011 at 4:42 pm

It helps that there’s a groin-threatening situation to motivate his brain in the “real world”.

Kroiden March 19, 2011 at 6:45 am

Most likely, yes…
That stimulates the old brain cells.

Noodlebug March 18, 2011 at 3:29 pm

Are sea cats related to Thundercats?

Kevin Pettway March 18, 2011 at 3:57 pm

I think they’re the Thundercats grandparents.

orald March 18, 2011 at 4:48 pm

It’s a long and convoluted story, and trust me, you really don’t want to know.
It still gives me nightmares. 8O

Elfguy March 18, 2011 at 10:49 pm

Great, now you’ve brought up the ilicit love affair between Cheetara and Aquaman…

anonymous coward March 19, 2011 at 10:01 am

Damn, he must’ve caught her when she was in heat or something, I always thought she went for chasing the closet-homos.

SomeUnregPunk March 18, 2011 at 4:20 pm

This and Golden Age is my two favorite D&D style web-comics.
you got a more updated and screwy story while the other got a bit more comedy with less updates.

The stories that you both built is what brings me back to your sites. The characters are interesting, yours have double lives within a campaign/players setting while the other seems to play the story straight.

It helps brings a smile to my face every now and then.

orald March 18, 2011 at 4:49 pm

Blasphemy! No mention of Order of The Stick?! :o

Pulsa March 18, 2011 at 6:25 pm

OOTS is a comic in a universe where 3.5 D&D rules govern the laws of physics and reality. HOLE is a comic about a D&D group shown completly from the in-universe point of view. Theres a difference.

Kevin Pettway March 19, 2011 at 9:46 am

Thanks ‘Punk. You’re kind to say so.

I do dig the OotS too though. Gonna go check out Golden Age!

SomeUnregPunk March 19, 2011 at 6:17 pm

I just found the Darths & Droids webcomic. The comic seems to do the same thing you do with your player/characters.

It has now become my third favorite web-comic. … I wish there was more movie based on a D&D campaign where you watch some younger actors play an D&D campaign while also watching some older adults actually play their characters. …. sort of like how the Dead Gentleman Productions did their D&D style movies or how “The Princess Bride” did it with an older gent reciting a story to Fred Savage.

ranthoron March 20, 2011 at 2:09 pm

Just rereading the book to the film – has someone done a campaign about it?

orald March 20, 2011 at 2:53 pm

IDK, but I just discovered yesterday that there’s a loosely-related porno of it. Why did I have to find out, WHY?! :cry:

anonymous coward March 19, 2011 at 9:12 pm

http://goldenage.comicgenesis.com/
Link if anybody has trouble tracking it down; it’s slow running generally but has its charm. Darths & Droids has excellent commentary about running and playing RPGs and can be easily found by searching out David Morgan-Mar’s Irregular Webcomic (which is a Lego photo-comic).

orald March 20, 2011 at 4:09 am

Yeah, DMM’s comics have long been on my favorite list, and Irregular Webcomic updates daily, so there’s a funny every day of the week! And tons of interesting and informative annotations(though the “sciencier” ones when talking about his field of physics and mathematics are a little hard for me to actually follow).
I’m anxiously anticipating the transition to the original trilogy on Darths&Droids soon enough, it’s been a long time coming, and we’ll get to have funnies without the pain of dimly remembering the awful sequels.

Aric March 19, 2011 at 7:43 am

Dont forget another gaming comic. Its about a D&D group and is rather involved regarding D&D mechanics and clever use of them. Its a fun comic.

Kroiden March 19, 2011 at 1:05 pm

Link?

chris.nl March 19, 2011 at 1:21 pm

google gave me this, http://agc.deskslave.org/

cargosquid March 19, 2011 at 1:45 pm

As long as we’re mentioning other comics, Nodwick and Full Frontal Nerdity are good.

http://nodwick.humor.gamespy.com/index.htm

anonymous coward March 19, 2011 at 9:15 pm

Yafgc. Yes that’s an acronym.

chris.nl March 20, 2011 at 3:16 am

Since we all know how lazy you are…

yafgc.net/

*This is directed at anyone reading this messege.

Kevin Pettway March 20, 2011 at 8:15 pm

Also a favorite of mine. :)

D.Durand July 30, 2011 at 8:29 pm

Gods, how some of the creatures from D&D are stupids. Make a giant size see leopard if you want something REALLY dangerous !

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