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702 – White Smoke Mountain • 70

by Kevin Pettway on August 27, 2010

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1 Al Sohlstrom August 27, 2010 at 12:17 am

Portcullis. It’s like a door, only jailier.”

….

Best.

Line.

EVER!

Outstanding comic, dude.

Also: First.

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2 Christina August 27, 2010 at 6:23 am

I swear, if this “first!” nonsense that infests some forums on the Net starts here, too, I’m going to engrave your screen name on a bullet. :evil: Only idiots with limp dicks feel the need to yell “first!” and hug themselves in the delusion that they’ve achieved something of worth. Go away.

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3 Rock August 27, 2010 at 6:26 am

*winces* Have you had a bad experience? That was… rather harsh for a fairly trivial annoyance.

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4 Kevin August 27, 2010 at 8:37 am

Yay for Al! Firsties!

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5 Ron August 27, 2010 at 8:56 am

But what about elevensies?

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6 orald August 27, 2010 at 9:01 am

See? See how it spreads? We’re all doomed now, DOOOOMED!!!

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7 orald August 27, 2010 at 9:00 am

Harsh? Christina just knows you have to strike hard at the first sign of corruption. And it might look like a trivial thing when it’s just one or two people spouting it, but it can spread rapidly(see below: Kevin’s already hooked on it!) then then refuses to die out.

One of the best thing about DM of The Rings was how funny and interesting a lot of comments were, in addition to the comic itself. But somewhere after a few dozen strips people started saying “first!” and “#12!” etc, and it just wasn’t funny anymore(the comments, not the comic).

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8 Vincent August 28, 2010 at 3:19 am

Exactly! :?

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9 Vincent August 28, 2010 at 3:17 am

OTOH, she is right. This is pretty stupid, and it becomes boring when you have to scroll down “first!” “second!” “third!”… comments all the way.
It can became bothering enough so that the moderator has to bans such comments, as happened in the Order of The Stick or DM of the rings

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10 Christina August 28, 2010 at 2:13 pm

Rock wrote:
“*winces* Have you had a bad experience? That was… rather harsh for a fairly trivial annoyance.”

You can say that, yes. :x It’s no longer a trivial thing.

Seriously, haven’t you noticed? It’s all over the place… on youtube, on forums, message boards, webcomic or vblog comments sections… idiots so eager to post the first comment just to be able to say “I’m first!” that often they don’t even take the time to read/watch the comic/blog/video that they’re supposed to be commenting on. So they waste bandwidth and everyone’s time with a useless comment. I know because some of them even boast about it, like, “First! And now I’ll go read the comic.”

It’s like people smearing their names on the walls of public restrooms. I mean, why? Some of them are clearly trolls who do it to get people riled up, but the rest?

I’ve been to forums where users who do the “first” stuff are banned without warning, because the forum rules forbid it. That’s how annoying it has become.

I thought it was restricted to the English-language part of the Net, but now I see it starting up on German message boards, too. Probalby because most Germans below the age of 50 who surf the Net know English and teenagers pick up any “trend”, no matter how stupid or annoying.

That said, Al Sohlstrom, I apologize for my outburst. I don’t know you personally, so you’re probably a perfectly decent person and not an internet troll.

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11 orald August 28, 2010 at 3:36 pm

“Perfectly decent person”? Here? Get him! :twisted:

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12 Kevin August 27, 2010 at 12:16 pm

Okay Al Sohlstrom, I think the takeaway here is that it’s perfectly fine to say how awesome the comic is, but I you mention what number poster you are, Christina will skewer your intellect, priaptic vigor, and sense of self. While I’d never tell you what to do, I personally have a policy against angering Christina, as I am not given to immolation.

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13 anonymous coward August 27, 2010 at 12:37 pm

Pfft. Everybody who willingly rides in a car secretly (or perhaps not-so-secretly) has a self-immolation fetish. The whole western world is Buddhist that way.
Go for it Kevin, you only have your inhibitions, and your clothes, and your skin, and maybe some other organs, and your life to lose!

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14 Christina August 28, 2010 at 2:21 pm

“priaptic vigor” :lol:

Is it bad that I even know what this means? I blame my education… a biology degree gives you a weird sense of humour. At least I didn’t study medicine.

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15 orald August 28, 2010 at 3:44 pm

Can I have a Periapt of Priapic Vigor?

At least it’s priapic according to dictionary.com, it didn’t give me results for priaptic.
And doesn’t it show something about humans that they have so many words to describe their genitalia?

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16 Christina August 29, 2010 at 1:37 am

Eh, I should’ve checked the spelling. English isn’t my native language.

But yeah, priapism is nothing to joke about. And it sucks as a superpower.

And now I can’t help but wonder, considering that the Thor movie is coming soon, what a movie about that Greek god they named the medical condition after would look like. :roll: It probably wouldn’t be PG-13. I guess the poor guy wouldn’t be invited to become a member (pardon the pun) of the Avengers, either. No-one likes a giant prick. (I’m so going to hell for these puns, aren’t I?)

You know, it could be hilarious, though. In the Edda, there’s this tongue-in-cheek joke that Thor’s hammer has a handle that is rather short. *cough* Perhaps Priapus could give Thor some pointers with the ladies. Someone has to fill the sex quota, now that they changed Loki from the sexy and sarcasic shapeshifting trickster guy of the Norse Edda who banged every female goddess in Asgard while the gods were busy beating up frost giants into this black-clad, tragic emo fangirl bait from the comics. Not that there is anything wrong with a black-clad, tragic emo fangirl bait Loki. :roll: But I miss the irreverent trickster with the cunning tongue.

Although come to think of it, what the other gods did to Loki and to Loki’s family near the end of the Edda was pretty sick, horrible and tragic, too. Yeesh. :(

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17 orald August 29, 2010 at 4:51 am

The fault was with Kevin, as he gave the wrong term.

I just like the “periapt of priapic” combination, not like I need it. :oops:

What does it say about all those gods that they preferred banging up giants(in a non-sexual manner, presumably) to banging their wives?

And what medical condition named after a Greek god were you referring to? I always love to read on Wiki’ about how screwed up “God” made us, presumably in his perfect image, so we could enjoy out life on earth.

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18 Kevin August 29, 2010 at 7:58 am

Priapism, a permanent woody, named after Priapos, the Greek god. (Who later became Bacchus under the Romans, when he lost his rock-hard three foot penis in favor of a wine jug.)

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19 orald August 29, 2010 at 8:28 am

Bah, any decent god can maintain a 3ft-long permanent erection while getting pissed drunk.

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20 Rock August 27, 2010 at 2:39 am

… Don’t give up your day jobs as wandering killers and tomb robbers for a shot at the stage, guys.

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21 orald August 27, 2010 at 3:28 am

I wouldn’t, I mean, with such an awesome job, why would I want to start acting anyway?

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22 Don B. August 27, 2010 at 5:10 am

I think that I like Bunker better when he loosens up a little. Martin isn’t even smiling a devious smile like usual. He’s really enjoying this, isn’t he?

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23 Rock August 27, 2010 at 6:27 am

A question just occurred to me… Are all the players in this game the same gender as their characters?

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24 Kevin August 27, 2010 at 8:38 am

Maaaybe…

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25 orald August 27, 2010 at 9:02 am

A question just occurred to me…Are all people the same gender they play in real-life?

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26 Chris August 27, 2010 at 10:46 am

I like to play in-between.

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27 orald August 27, 2010 at 11:29 am

I like to play all-around.

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28 anonymous coward August 27, 2010 at 12:39 pm

I get a kick out of asking, “Since I wasn’t planning on hitting on you anyway why would I care or have any need to know?” whenever people admit they’re gay, or whatever.

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29 orald August 28, 2010 at 8:22 am

I do it mostly out of boredom*, really. I mean, I’m not actually gay, I’m bisexual, and I lean more towards women anyway, but that’s just so ordinary and boring.
That, and I love making gay jokes, like the above(I call it a joke), especially since I’m “one” and am allowed to by society’s PC rules.

But I don’t usually admit outright just for the hell of it, it usually comes out because I have a comment to say about this or that where I either have to outright say it to establish my point(like, “as a bisexual I think…”) or the point itself just outright says it(like “mmm…I’d take a bite out of William Moseley”).

So that’s me.

*Also as a creep-out factor against annoying teen-aged boys, especially in the past when playing MMO’s.

30 Christina August 28, 2010 at 2:41 pm

I play male characters 90% of the time, despite being biologically female. Most are heterosexual, some homosexual. I go with what feels right and fitting for the character.

I’ve met one or two GMs or groups who were adamantly against cross-gender play, claiming that they’ve never met a woman who can play a convincing man (of whatever orientation), or a man who can play a convincing woman. (And you know what, fine, in some cases they’re right. We’ve all met guys playing double-D breasted females. But hey, depends on the genre, sometime gender stereotypes are funny, especially in a pulp adventure setting.)

But in those instances I always like to point out it’s called “roleplaying”. Really, ask yourself, has anyone ever objected to gamers playing a human being from another culture or time period, or an elf, an undead, a werecrocodile or a member of a four-armed alien species with five genders who lays eggs? Of course not.

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31 Kevin August 29, 2010 at 8:04 am

I have met DMs who felt this way as well. Although I pointed out that I’ve never met anyone capable of accurately portraying a ninety year old elven wizard either, and simply asked why it was more important that the portrayal be accurate than fun, I have yet to see a DM change his stance. I also have yet to see a DM who believed this who wasn’t in high school.

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32 orald August 29, 2010 at 8:29 am

They were just afraid they’d fall to your womanly charms, Kevin.

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33 Christina August 28, 2010 at 2:24 pm

“A question just occurred to me… Are all the players in this game the same gender as their characters?”

Except for Zobbie, it seems so.

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34 Christina August 28, 2010 at 2:24 pm

Martin was born to be a hammy actor. :mrgreen:

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35 Roxofspazhouse August 27, 2010 at 5:24 am

I don’t have a plus 5 anything in our games.

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36 Andrew August 27, 2010 at 5:39 am

Guess you need to change the adventure. Unfortunately, your DM is way to smart for that. :)

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37 Kevin August 27, 2010 at 8:40 am

The ranger has a +6 Dragonslayer sword, Roxanne, and there are at least two other +5 items I can think of off the top of my head… one of which is on your character.

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38 Alan August 28, 2010 at 9:25 am

The +5 helm of forgetfulness perhaps?

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39 Christina August 27, 2010 at 6:25 am

An epic-level sword lying around? The gamemaster should smell a rat at this point.

Also, this proves that Mr. Unseen Dungeonmaster didn’t read the game module all the way through before he started the campaign but instead is, apparently, running scene by scene… turn the page… read the boxed text…. otherwise he would spot this second re-write of the module. Preparation, man!

Itdoes fit with Mr. Unseen DM’s inability to modify or change an adventure module. He’s running it right off the page, even if something makes no sense. And his players know that.

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40 Kevin August 27, 2010 at 8:40 am

Unfortunately for him!

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41 Rock August 27, 2010 at 11:44 am

Yet, tragically, he is still a better DM than Martin and Enkidu, whether separate or… yuck… put together.

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42 Kevin August 27, 2010 at 12:03 pm

Plot device!

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43 Vincent August 28, 2010 at 3:23 am

Yup, he seems like a teenage beginner DM in that fashion.

And on others, now that I think of it. Is our DM teenage? That’d explain a lot.

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44 Christina August 28, 2010 at 2:45 pm

I doubt it, since Freya’s player is clearly a grown woman, and she has on several occasions threatened to withhold sex from her boyfriend the GM if he doesn’t allow her character to do what she wants. Like the class-change to monk. So he’s in all probability an adult, at least on paper.

Not to mention, didn’t some of the comic’s characters mention driving a car?

Even Zobbie, her sister, must be old enough to have moved away and now have moved back. Underage teenagers usually do not rent apartments (and I’m not sure, but British-style boarding schools, at least as public schools, are not that common in the US?). Wasn’t Zobbie a student or something?

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45 orald August 28, 2010 at 3:47 pm

Lets just call it “in their twenties”, biologically speaking.

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46 Kevin August 29, 2010 at 8:06 am

I will offer that Zobbie moved away with her mom when her parents divorced, and has recently moved back in with her dad.

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47 Stephen August 27, 2010 at 7:21 am

minor my ass, those vials contain miniature black holes don’t they?

wheres a republican when we need one? someone needs to shut martin down before the earth is engulfed!

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48 Noodlebug August 27, 2010 at 7:32 am

It’s only Lesser Earth, I’m not that bothered whether it becomes engulfed or not. Though they could use a few black holes in Greater Earth, apparantly…

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49 Kevin August 27, 2010 at 12:05 pm

Minor Alchemical Items = sun rods, tanglefoot bags, and god mode potions.

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50 Christina August 28, 2010 at 2:48 pm

Martin hacked the Magic Item Compendium, too?

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51 Bobby T August 27, 2010 at 8:58 am

Epic. But if he left his treasure behind, what’s in the valise?

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52 orald August 27, 2010 at 9:05 am

His lunch, obviously. They didn’t have lunchboxes back then.

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53 Rieve August 27, 2010 at 10:00 am

That’s not a valise… It’s his son!

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54 Elfguy August 27, 2010 at 12:05 pm

To be more accurate, it’s a carpet bag.

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55 Jochi August 27, 2010 at 9:59 am

What? You don’t think a monster that lies in ambush disguised as something else would LIE? I’m surprised Enkidu didn’t ASSUME it was lying (HE would have) and hit it again, harder.

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56 Kevin August 27, 2010 at 12:06 pm

That’s a carpet bag, and he keeps his catalog of fancy women’s hairbrushes in there.

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57 orald August 27, 2010 at 1:01 pm

Or a naughty magazine of Iron-Wrought Doors&Fences Monthly.

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58 Elfguy August 27, 2010 at 1:11 pm

So next comes the +10 Full Plate Armor of Prismatic Invulnerability?

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59 orald August 27, 2010 at 1:32 pm

You forgot the “&Levitation” part.

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60 Tim August 27, 2010 at 10:19 pm

This comic made me laugh out loud. I was at work, checking it out on my phone. I like my new phone, cause now I can look at this comic at work. Anyway, yay for new sword!

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61 Kroiden August 27, 2010 at 11:31 pm

And it was in Bunkers favorite color too! :mrgreen:

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62 Tim August 28, 2010 at 1:38 am

Yeah, what color is that? Somehow I see green. Maybe cause that’s my favorite color. Probably blue, Bunker being who he is.

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63 orald August 28, 2010 at 8:30 am

It could be green-hilted…But right now I’m guessing white is his favorite color.

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64 Tim August 28, 2010 at 12:49 pm

That would make a lot of sense, considering the Black and White medium of the comic.

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65 Christina August 28, 2010 at 2:50 pm

Hot pink. ;)

Because, “Only Real Men wear pink.”

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66 orald August 28, 2010 at 3:49 pm

I hate pink, it’s just so annoying.

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67 Kevin August 29, 2010 at 8:11 am

Thanks Tim. Bunker’s old sword, Homage, had a green hilt. As for this sword, the blade is golden-colored, which is what Bunker is actually talking about.

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68 orald August 29, 2010 at 8:43 am

What’s the name of the new one?

BTW, a thought occurred to me: When finding armor, aside from special cases like gnomes/halflings where I think the game actually says something, would you make the player first take the armor back to a decent blacksmith to re-size it to fit the new owner? Or do you wave your hand at the hassle, saying the previous owner was a perfect match for the new one?

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69 TSED August 29, 2010 at 4:25 pm

At least in 2nd ed, armour magically resized itself for its wearer.

I just kept that rule. Because really, not being able to use armour until you have some spare weeks and spare gold SUCKS.

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70 Kevin August 29, 2010 at 6:05 pm

They have kept that through 3.0, 3.5, and 4.0. It makes very little sense, but it is one of my favorite rules as well.

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71 orald August 29, 2010 at 7:33 pm

Now that you mention it, I do recall some bullshit about it in when I was leafing through 4e.

Can’t they just advise the DM to say “Oh, gee, looks like that tough, bigger-than-average goblin with the armor was also just your size!/In the goblin’s sack you find a blood stained armor(But luckily without all the gashes and dents you’d expect to see from all this blood. Really, it’s just soaked with it. I didn’t know people had so much blood. I’m gonna be sick!), and it looks like his previous victim was a perfect fit of you!” instead of giving the most unimaginative, suspension-of-disbelief-killing excuse?

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72 Ron August 29, 2010 at 8:12 pm

Heck yes! I like my fantasy role-playing game to be realistic, gods darn it!
;)

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73 orald August 30, 2010 at 7:53 am

I would think the whole point of such a game is to hold some grasp on reality, otherwise it’s just a weird dream and you don’t need to do anything other than proclaim “I do this!” and it’s done, and then what’s the point?
There should always be a bit of realism in a game.

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74 Ron August 30, 2010 at 8:14 am

I’m just being cheeky. But I do think it’s funny sometimes to hear different people’s opinions of what breaks their suspension of disbelief in a game like D&D.

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75 Kevin August 30, 2010 at 9:01 am

I’m always good until Roxanne says something like “Oh my character would have remembered that for sure.”

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76 Chris.nl August 29, 2010 at 12:56 pm

Shameless pat on my own shoulder/back I knew it :D

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77 Kevin August 29, 2010 at 6:06 pm

You’re very smart.

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78 Chris.nl August 28, 2010 at 3:19 am

It’s probally gold.
Because Kevin treis to darken colors, accordingly, this one isnt darkened at all so its a light color. :>

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79 Christina August 28, 2010 at 2:53 pm

Poor Morty. He wanders around, confused and dazed, wondering what’s going on. He just doesn’t have the loot gene. Like Zobbie.

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80 Kroiden August 29, 2010 at 3:27 pm

More for the rest of them, right? ;)

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81 Kevin August 29, 2010 at 6:06 pm

Big windfall for Morty, on the way.

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82 orald August 29, 2010 at 7:18 pm

Some goddamn quality cleric loot, for a change? He should at least get that after 4e ruined his class.

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83 Kevin August 30, 2010 at 9:03 am

4e clerics are WAAAY better than previous versions.

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84 Ron August 30, 2010 at 9:18 am

1e Cleric: Do I hit something over the head, or heal the fighter?
2e Cleric: Do I hit something over the head, or heal the fighter?
3e/3.5e Cleric: Do I hit something over the head, or heal the fighter?
4e Cleric: I hit something over the head and heal the entire party.

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