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	<title>Comments on: 582 – Violet • 01</title>
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		<title>By: Bamko</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bamko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 13:15:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I finally am catching up with HOLE, my work also has it blocked.  Did a quick look at comments, did not see the mentione of &quot;websense&quot;.  My org uses websense to block content they feel might hold the employer liable for trouble (if person &#039;a&#039; looks at porn, and person &#039;b&#039; is offended, it can be ruled as spnsored sexual harassment.  In a just world, they would either tell person &#039;a&#039; to stop it, or at least take it somewhere not visable to others, but meh, easier for the trogldytes to just block it).

It is likely many orgs use either websense, or the same list that they use.  One of my sites was flagged by them as &quot;gaming&quot; and I had to set up another site I could access and update my site.  There is a way to challenge it, but I fear that if they look at recent comics, they would be hard pressed to change their ruling.

So I have one &quot;fun&quot; link at home now.  Yours.  The rest I can still look at on my breaks and whatnot.

Bamko</description>
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<p>It is likely many orgs use either websense, or the same list that they use.  One of my sites was flagged by them as &#8220;gaming&#8221; and I had to set up another site I could access and update my site.  There is a way to challenge it, but I fear that if they look at recent comics, they would be hard pressed to change their ruling.</p>
<p>So I have one &#8220;fun&#8221; link at home now.  Yours.  The rest I can still look at on my breaks and whatnot.</p>
<p>Bamko</p>
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		<title>By: Carl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 00:39:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I take your point re: Worksafe in this case, but also note that the people paying for your services and the services they provide you have authorised (ie agreed) to pay you for such things.

In my country there are few businesses that can afford to have people slacking around like that, as indicated above competition and low margins means most people have several tasks and a list of &quot;when theres a moment&quot;/&quot;cold contacts&quot;/research/cleaning/prepping stuff to do when there&#039;s actually a moments break.       Ambulance drivers are about the only ones I know of, and that&#039;s because the government pays them here.</description>
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<p>In my country there are few businesses that can afford to have people slacking around like that, as indicated above competition and low margins means most people have several tasks and a list of &#8220;when theres a moment&#8221;/&#8221;cold contacts&#8221;/research/cleaning/prepping stuff to do when there&#8217;s actually a moments break.       Ambulance drivers are about the only ones I know of, and that&#8217;s because the government pays them here.</p>
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		<title>By: Carl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 00:33:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well work harder Kevin, you&#039;ll get there one day (yeah right ;) )

Used to have a few managers that we paid good dollars to that thought work was stuff for minions and would fill the time w/ hobbies, how shocked they were when sacking time came because performance wasn&#039;t up to minimum level (set by the bank and the loan repayments).

And more than a few minions that figured listening to streamed radio/video was better than local radio stations yet whined about slow company WAN network response time, that&#039;s not including the cost the data portion of the pipe blowing out the IT budget by 500% every month.   Although that was partly from one guy who figured computers weren&#039;t being used in the evenings so he&#039;d run a uTorrent (and convinced one of techs to pinhole the firewall for him).</description>
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<p>Used to have a few managers that we paid good dollars to that thought work was stuff for minions and would fill the time w/ hobbies, how shocked they were when sacking time came because performance wasn&#8217;t up to minimum level (set by the bank and the loan repayments).</p>
<p>And more than a few minions that figured listening to streamed radio/video was better than local radio stations yet whined about slow company WAN network response time, that&#8217;s not including the cost the data portion of the pipe blowing out the IT budget by 500% every month.   Although that was partly from one guy who figured computers weren&#8217;t being used in the evenings so he&#8217;d run a uTorrent (and convinced one of techs to pinhole the firewall for him).</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Pettway</title>
		<link>http://www.heroesoflesserearth.com/2009/11/582-%e2%80%93-violet-%e2%80%a2-01/comment-page-1/#comment-23756</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Pettway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:32:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds like they’re in the habit of banning anything they don’t know the definition of. Pretty funny.

Most large companies are in fact run by giant lizards, but you didn’t hear it from me.</description>
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<p>Most large companies are in fact run by giant lizards, but you didn’t hear it from me.</p>
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		<title>By: moginheden</title>
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		<dc:creator>moginheden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 04:29:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used to work on the helpdesk.  It was &lt;i&gt;encouraged&lt;/i&gt; to do things like read comics/play games when you were between calls in order to maintain your sanity.  I&#039;ve since moved on to &quot;website administrator&quot; where I&#039;m still pretty much only working when something needs posting or goes down so I get a lot of time with nothing work-related to do, (but I need to be at work in case something does need doing.)

There are a lot of jobs, (especially in IT) that require you to be available, but don&#039;t require you to be working your entire shift, reading comics is great for that as you can drop what you are doing at a moment&#039;s notice and start working, yet you aren&#039;t bored out of your mind between assignments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="CommentRating"> <img style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="up-23755" src="http://www.heroesoflesserearth.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating-pro/images/1_14_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('23755', 'add', 'www.heroesoflesserearth.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating-pro/', '1_14_');" title="Thumb up" /> <span id="karma-23755-up" style="font-size:10px; color:#009933;">0</span>&nbsp;<img style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="down-23755" src="http://www.heroesoflesserearth.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating-pro/images/1_14_down.png" alt="Thumb down" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('23755', 'subtract', 'www.heroesoflesserearth.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating-pro/', '1_14_')" title="Thumb down" /> <span id="karma-23755-down" style="font-size:10px; color:#990033;">0</span></div><p>I used to work on the helpdesk.  It was <i>encouraged</i> to do things like read comics/play games when you were between calls in order to maintain your sanity.  I&#8217;ve since moved on to &#8220;website administrator&#8221; where I&#8217;m still pretty much only working when something needs posting or goes down so I get a lot of time with nothing work-related to do, (but I need to be at work in case something does need doing.)</p>
<p>There are a lot of jobs, (especially in IT) that require you to be available, but don&#8217;t require you to be working your entire shift, reading comics is great for that as you can drop what you are doing at a moment&#8217;s notice and start working, yet you aren&#8217;t bored out of your mind between assignments.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 23:40:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not sure about you, Carl, but my half-hour lunch is unpaid.  That makes it my time, not the company&#039;s.  The only valid point you made was abut using the company&#039;s gear/bandwidth; although I would think the measly 800KB to load HOLE wouldn&#039;t really cost them too much, would it?</description>
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		<title>By: Kevin Pettway</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin Pettway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 22:22:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lena &#039;splained it to me. I was having a brain-block but she quickly laid it out for me. I&#039;d go into it here but I think I&#039;m going to make it a separate blog later.</description>
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		<title>By: Kevin Pettway</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin Pettway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 22:21:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since we&#039;re now all apparently reporting to Carl, I&#039;d like to ask for a new chair. The girl upstairs has a better one and I want one too. Also, the fridge is out of Diet Coke and you need to tell the guy in next cubicle he REALLY needs to start bathing more than once a month.

Everyone direct all your work concerns to Carl, who is very interested in the way you perform your jobs.</description>
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<p>Everyone direct all your work concerns to Carl, who is very interested in the way you perform your jobs.</p>
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		<title>By: Carl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 22:03:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Work Safe&quot; comic.

WTF are you doing reading comics at work...


genitals etc, so what.  But you&#039;re paid to do a job, how &#039;bout they get their arses in gear and do it.
slack off/read comics on your own time (with your own gear/bandwidth).

(vision of surgeon or pilot or sharemarket &quot;floor&quot; man saying yeah I&#039;ll get back to you just after reading this page)</description>
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<p>WTF are you doing reading comics at work&#8230;</p>
<p>genitals etc, so what.  But you&#8217;re paid to do a job, how &#8217;bout they get their arses in gear and do it.<br />
slack off/read comics on your own time (with your own gear/bandwidth).</p>
<p>(vision of surgeon or pilot or sharemarket &#8220;floor&#8221; man saying yeah I&#8217;ll get back to you just after reading this page)</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://www.heroesoflesserearth.com/2009/11/582-%e2%80%93-violet-%e2%80%a2-01/comment-page-1/#comment-23748</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 18:07:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t, but I want to.</description>
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