Comments on: 527 – Walk on the Wild Side: 04 http://www.heroesoflesserearth.com/2009/07/527-%e2%80%93-walk-on-the-wild-side-04/ ...A Dungeons and Dragons Webcomic. Comic: Monday, Wednesday, Friday. Blog: Tuesday, Thursday Thu, 09 Feb 2012 19:23:24 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Christina http://www.heroesoflesserearth.com/2009/07/527-%e2%80%93-walk-on-the-wild-side-04/comment-page-1/#comment-21178 Christina Mon, 13 Jul 2009 11:59:15 +0000 http://www.heroesoflesserearth.com/?p=3707#comment-21178 Wait, Fleece is a wood elf? Where did I get the idea she was half-elf? Hm. :| I agree with your comments on the various other webcomics. Wait, Fleece is a wood elf? Where did I get the idea she was half-elf? Hm. :|

I agree with your comments on the various other webcomics.

]]> By: Tim http://www.heroesoflesserearth.com/2009/07/527-%e2%80%93-walk-on-the-wild-side-04/comment-page-1/#comment-21140 Tim Thu, 09 Jul 2009 22:50:14 +0000 http://www.heroesoflesserearth.com/?p=3707#comment-21140 Brighthaven sounds like my kinda place. But then I'm about the only person I know who always plays a human. And I never liked elves anyway, so yay! The pickle armor comment made me laugh, and then his healing quip made me laugh harder. Kudos. Brighthaven sounds like my kinda place. But then I’m about the only person I know who always plays a human. And I never liked elves anyway, so yay! The pickle armor comment made me laugh, and then his healing quip made me laugh harder. Kudos.

]]> By: Kevin http://www.heroesoflesserearth.com/2009/07/527-%e2%80%93-walk-on-the-wild-side-04/comment-page-1/#comment-21139 Kevin Thu, 09 Jul 2009 19:17:21 +0000 http://www.heroesoflesserearth.com/?p=3707#comment-21139 Hmm… who knows? In a week we will be one third of the way through our campaign. That gives us <i>all kinds</i> of time for things to go horribly, horribly wrong. Hmm… who knows? In a week we will be one third of the way through our campaign. That gives us all kinds of time for things to go horribly, horribly wrong.

]]> By: Tonya http://www.heroesoflesserearth.com/2009/07/527-%e2%80%93-walk-on-the-wild-side-04/comment-page-1/#comment-21138 Tonya Thu, 09 Jul 2009 17:21:27 +0000 http://www.heroesoflesserearth.com/?p=3707#comment-21138 Somehow this all seems eerily familiar to me... "Non-humans in general get the shaft in Brighthaven, not being allowed to own land, speak to nobility, possess gold, be drunk, eat or room in human-oriented establishments, or really anything else that anyone with a chip on their shoulder comes up with to persecute them with." Wow, I guess it REALLY messes with some people to have a noble tiefling, with a keep, tavern and vineyard, piles of gold and other sundries, and who talks to herself, eh?! :D ::hums "Lady Ravanna...":: What are they going to do when/if they find out about this whole demon goddess spider sister??? Somehow this all seems eerily familiar to me…

“Non-humans in general get the shaft in Brighthaven, not being allowed to own land, speak to nobility, possess gold, be drunk, eat or room in human-oriented establishments, or really anything else that anyone with a chip on their shoulder comes up with to persecute them with.”

Wow, I guess it REALLY messes with some people to have a noble tiefling, with a keep, tavern and vineyard, piles of gold and other sundries, and who talks to herself, eh?! :D ::hums “Lady Ravanna…”:: What are they going to do when/if they find out about this whole demon goddess spider sister???

]]> By: anonymous coward http://www.heroesoflesserearth.com/2009/07/527-%e2%80%93-walk-on-the-wild-side-04/comment-page-1/#comment-21137 anonymous coward Thu, 09 Jul 2009 16:28:40 +0000 http://www.heroesoflesserearth.com/?p=3707#comment-21137 ....I applaud your light-touch, skillful mockery. As far as trying to get your players interested in your world goes, here's a couple (possibly inapplicable) tricks I've used: -Don't try to tell them anything they don't look to find out, in character explanations should be artistically lensed through character and social biases, and never <b>EVER</b> give a complete answer (unless maybe you're in a low-censorship cyberpunk world and people have a range of choices to read through in every library). Scarcity and quality concerns can drive up demand, and improve apparent quality. See countless examples, the story of Urza and Myshra in Magic: The Cardboard's storylines is a particularly striking one where earlier interest in a vaguely, incomplete and fragmentarily delivered story was later eroded by telling too much. -Armies on the march, battles, brawls, in-character NPC arguments and assassination attempts are much better hooks for world interest than wikipedia-page entries. -Take a cue from the Simpsons' (first?) episode on Japan and their gameshow host's explanation of the difference between American and Japanese gameshows: "American gameshows reward knowledge," host points at his foreheaad, "Japanese gameshows punish ignorance!" and slam fist down into other palm. -Keep in mind that people who couldn't be bothered to keep track of politics in real life aren't necessarily going to be more interested in fictional politics even if those politics come equipped with swords, spells, monsters and loot. ....Bonus points: Explain I am unintentionally patronizing you and add items to my list. :) ….I applaud your light-touch, skillful mockery.
As far as trying to get your players interested in your world goes, here’s a couple (possibly inapplicable) tricks I’ve used:
-Don’t try to tell them anything they don’t look to find out, in character explanations should be artistically lensed through character and social biases, and never EVER give a complete answer (unless maybe you’re in a low-censorship cyberpunk world and people have a range of choices to read through in every library). Scarcity and quality concerns can drive up demand, and improve apparent quality. See countless examples, the story of Urza and Myshra in Magic: The Cardboard’s storylines is a particularly striking one where earlier interest in a vaguely, incomplete and fragmentarily delivered story was later eroded by telling too much.
-Armies on the march, battles, brawls, in-character NPC arguments and assassination attempts are much better hooks for world interest than wikipedia-page entries.
-Take a cue from the Simpsons’ (first?) episode on Japan and their gameshow host’s explanation of the difference between American and Japanese gameshows: “American gameshows reward knowledge,” host points at his foreheaad, “Japanese gameshows punish ignorance!” and slam fist down into other palm.
-Keep in mind that people who couldn’t be bothered to keep track of politics in real life aren’t necessarily going to be more interested in fictional politics even if those politics come equipped with swords, spells, monsters and loot.

….Bonus points: Explain I am unintentionally patronizing you and add items to my list. :)

]]> By: Kevin http://www.heroesoflesserearth.com/2009/07/527-%e2%80%93-walk-on-the-wild-side-04/comment-page-1/#comment-21136 Kevin Thu, 09 Jul 2009 15:34:16 +0000 http://www.heroesoflesserearth.com/?p=3707#comment-21136 That's the one. That’s the one.

]]> By: Kevin http://www.heroesoflesserearth.com/2009/07/527-%e2%80%93-walk-on-the-wild-side-04/comment-page-1/#comment-21135 Kevin Thu, 09 Jul 2009 15:32:24 +0000 http://www.heroesoflesserearth.com/?p=3707#comment-21135 LOL! It never even occurred to me that you trying to insult me, so no worries. I think that you are one of those people who just says what's on their mind without much emotional attachment to it. You may very well say something insulting, like, "…but you spent three paragraphs explaining how these humans are cowardly, oppressive xenophobes. That’s been done before." but you and I have been down this path enough times for me to assume that it's innocent and meant as neutral commentary. In case you're interested, the point in writing what I did the <i>way</i> I did was not to be the most original guy in the world. If that was my goal I doubt I'd bother to do much of anything. Rather I was simply explaining the laws of Brighthaven, and trying to do so in a manner my players might find funny, and thus actually bother to read it. If you are <i>not</i> interested and are no longer reading this far, then I did it entirely to spite you in the hopes that you'd become so incensed over my lack of originality that you'd write about it here, thus allowing me to poke fun at you in public. :P LOL! It never even occurred to me that you trying to insult me, so no worries. I think that you are one of those people who just says what’s on their mind without much emotional attachment to it. You may very well say something insulting, like, “…but you spent three paragraphs explaining how these humans are cowardly, oppressive xenophobes. That’s been done before.” but you and I have been down this path enough times for me to assume that it’s innocent and meant as neutral commentary.

In case you’re interested, the point in writing what I did the way I did was not to be the most original guy in the world. If that was my goal I doubt I’d bother to do much of anything. Rather I was simply explaining the laws of Brighthaven, and trying to do so in a manner my players might find funny, and thus actually bother to read it.

If you are not interested and are no longer reading this far, then I did it entirely to spite you in the hopes that you’d become so incensed over my lack of originality that you’d write about it here, thus allowing me to poke fun at you in public. :P

]]> By: Ron http://www.heroesoflesserearth.com/2009/07/527-%e2%80%93-walk-on-the-wild-side-04/comment-page-1/#comment-21134 Ron Thu, 09 Jul 2009 14:01:38 +0000 http://www.heroesoflesserearth.com/?p=3707#comment-21134 Then you might be interested in the elves from the setting of Warlord: Saga of the Storm. It's a CCG that was based on the original developer's D&D campaign. It eventually came full circle and was published as a D&D 3.5 setting - about a year before 4.0 was announced. The elves therein only have a natural life span of about 30 years and can achieve greater longevity only through necromancy. A very interesting twist on the elven longevity so many other settings take for granted. Then you might be interested in the elves from the setting of Warlord: Saga of the Storm. It’s a CCG that was based on the original developer’s D&D campaign. It eventually came full circle and was published as a D&D 3.5 setting – about a year before 4.0 was announced.

The elves therein only have a natural life span of about 30 years and can achieve greater longevity only through necromancy. A very interesting twist on the elven longevity so many other settings take for granted.

]]> By: anonymous coward http://www.heroesoflesserearth.com/2009/07/527-%e2%80%93-walk-on-the-wild-side-04/comment-page-1/#comment-21133 anonymous coward Thu, 09 Jul 2009 13:52:17 +0000 http://www.heroesoflesserearth.com/?p=3707#comment-21133 Apologies for the implicit insult then, but you spent three paragraphs explaining how these humans are cowardly, oppressive xenophobes. That's been done before. Apologies for the implicit insult then, but you spent three paragraphs explaining how these humans are cowardly, oppressive xenophobes. That’s been done before.

]]> By: Layne http://www.heroesoflesserearth.com/2009/07/527-%e2%80%93-walk-on-the-wild-side-04/comment-page-1/#comment-21132 Layne Thu, 09 Jul 2009 12:40:57 +0000 http://www.heroesoflesserearth.com/?p=3707#comment-21132 Hard to be against the elves when they have Night Elf Mohawk! Mr. T pities you. (great commercial) Hard to be against the elves when they have Night Elf Mohawk! Mr. T pities you. (great commercial)

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